Library Thing, Shelfari, Book Social Networks
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Jul. 9th, 2007 | 03:00 pm
From a Mashable blog entry today on "Good Looking" social sites, I poked at Shelfari. The site is much like LibraryThing. On the eyecandy side it is nice, it lacks Librarything's Utilitarian attitude, and has a very clean design.
I have two desires for sites likes these:
They view well from my Treo. Why do I care? Because I normally want to know if I have a book when I am at a bookstore. I hate buying doubles, and this happens every so often. My "plan to read" shelf is quite large, and when it comes to graphic novels I have discovered that I will buy duplicates if I am not careful. LibraryThing looks passable on my Treo, though its search is still not very optimized for a small screen. Shelfari looks awful and its useable from my Treo.
I find out what Friends are reading. I love to know what the people around me are reading. Books get published at an astounding rate, and frankly I can't keep up with it. I also know my authors, but I don't tend to find authors on my own anymore. Once upon a time I would spend an hour or so at a bookstore every couple of weeks scanning for new titles. I still do this once a month, but since bookstores like Barnes and Nobles just use shelf space for well known authors, who I also probably already know about, I don't find as many good books this way anymore. The big book sellers also waste a lot of shelf space with "series", which I am less inclined to read.
Once one of these systems can get enough mass for social networking, I am hoping that they find a good way to allow people to share recommendations. I keep my books in Delicious Library, so its pretty easy for me to mass import my collection into any system.
One annoying point about Shelfari. On the second page after sign up they have a page for uploading your addressbook into their system. There is no way I am uploading my Addressbook into any system. The big annoying part about that page? There is no clear way to jump from
that page to anywhere else in the site. Not having an opt-out makes the page feel like they are trying to pressure me into signing up my friends.
Yuck.
One other note, LibraryThing just feels more human/geeky. The content of the site gives me the feeling that there is a human behind it. So overall I am left with an impression that someone both cares about the site, aka they are doing it for just more then money, and that they are more likely to innovate.
A lot of these new social sites feel to cookie cutter in nature. I like the look and feel of more utilitarian sites. A friend was recently complaining about Craig's List and how its design is non-existent. Personally I am glad that they haven't changed the site.
In conclusion? I'll keep updating the account I made on Shelfari:
http://www.shelfari.com/BrianAker
My LibraryThing Account:
http://www.librarything.com/catalog/bri anaker
Uploading my data to two, instead of just one, sites is no big deal. The book social sites are still very much a new game, with no clear winner.
I have two desires for sites likes these:
They view well from my Treo. Why do I care? Because I normally want to know if I have a book when I am at a bookstore. I hate buying doubles, and this happens every so often. My "plan to read" shelf is quite large, and when it comes to graphic novels I have discovered that I will buy duplicates if I am not careful. LibraryThing looks passable on my Treo, though its search is still not very optimized for a small screen. Shelfari looks awful and its useable from my Treo.
I find out what Friends are reading. I love to know what the people around me are reading. Books get published at an astounding rate, and frankly I can't keep up with it. I also know my authors, but I don't tend to find authors on my own anymore. Once upon a time I would spend an hour or so at a bookstore every couple of weeks scanning for new titles. I still do this once a month, but since bookstores like Barnes and Nobles just use shelf space for well known authors, who I also probably already know about, I don't find as many good books this way anymore. The big book sellers also waste a lot of shelf space with "series", which I am less inclined to read.
Once one of these systems can get enough mass for social networking, I am hoping that they find a good way to allow people to share recommendations. I keep my books in Delicious Library, so its pretty easy for me to mass import my collection into any system.
One annoying point about Shelfari. On the second page after sign up they have a page for uploading your addressbook into their system. There is no way I am uploading my Addressbook into any system. The big annoying part about that page? There is no clear way to jump from
that page to anywhere else in the site. Not having an opt-out makes the page feel like they are trying to pressure me into signing up my friends.
Yuck.
One other note, LibraryThing just feels more human/geeky. The content of the site gives me the feeling that there is a human behind it. So overall I am left with an impression that someone both cares about the site, aka they are doing it for just more then money, and that they are more likely to innovate.
A lot of these new social sites feel to cookie cutter in nature. I like the look and feel of more utilitarian sites. A friend was recently complaining about Craig's List and how its design is non-existent. Personally I am glad that they haven't changed the site.
In conclusion? I'll keep updating the account I made on Shelfari:
http://www.shelfari.com/BrianAker
My LibraryThing Account:
http://www.librarything.com/catalog/bri
Uploading my data to two, instead of just one, sites is no big deal. The book social sites are still very much a new game, with no clear winner.
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date: Jul. 9th, 2007 10:09 pm (UTC)
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date: Jul. 9th, 2007 10:18 pm (UTC)
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date: Jul. 9th, 2007 10:24 pm (UTC)
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They don't have a "skip this step" link anywhere on the page? Yuck. I've seen that "feature" on a couple of other sites but they've all made it optional, although they don't exactly highlight the "skip this" option.
I just set up an account over at Goodreads after someone on the f-list mentioned it this morning. I've just gotten started with it and so far I'm liking the interface, although I don't offhand see a good mobile option that I'd want to try using on my phone. Something else I like: it was trivial to import my books from a LibraryThing CSV export. I think I'll probably use Goodreads to keep track of what I'm reading (whether I own it or not) and watch for recommendations, and keep my LibraryThing library for just the stuff I own.
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date: Jul. 9th, 2007 10:46 pm (UTC)
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date: Jul. 9th, 2007 11:02 pm (UTC)
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After playing with Goodreads a bit, I appreciate LibraryThing's tag system a whole lot more than I already did.
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date: Jul. 9th, 2007 11:27 pm (UTC)
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date: Jul. 9th, 2007 11:35 pm (UTC)
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date: Jul. 9th, 2007 11:50 pm (UTC)
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LibraryThing
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date: Jul. 10th, 2007 12:47 am (UTC)
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Re: LibraryThing
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date: Jul. 10th, 2007 01:27 am (UTC)
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Re: LibraryThing
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davethebookguy
date: Jul. 10th, 2007 01:32 am (UTC)
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Full disclosure, I work at Shelfari... and we'd love to know if more Librarything users want to use LT's cataloging features and use Shelfari for discussion, friends, and sharing. I'm sure lots of people want it, we just need a few more requests.
email feedback@shelfari.com
See my shelf at shelfari.com/dhanley
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date: Jul. 10th, 2007 02:14 am (UTC)
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davethebookguy
date: Jul. 10th, 2007 02:31 am (UTC)
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--Dave
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Facebook
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davethebookguy
date: Jul. 10th, 2007 12:51 am (UTC)
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You can also check out Shelfari on Facebook if you prefer to use your existing network instead of joining anew one.
http://apps.facebook.com/shelfari/
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date: Jul. 10th, 2007 01:09 am (UTC)
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date: Jul. 10th, 2007 01:33 am (UTC)
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date: Jul. 10th, 2007 09:47 am (UTC)
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Bookspoke
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date: Nov. 2nd, 2007 05:25 pm (UTC)
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How do you export / import
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date: Jun. 3rd, 2009 07:17 pm (UTC)
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Patrik
http://warcry.olterman.se/
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date: Jun. 3rd, 2009 08:36 pm (UTC)
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